tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21184746.post909728342936854529..comments2023-10-26T04:30:03.752-04:00Comments on From Cork to Toronto: Porter Airlines crosses the borderMark Dowlinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01399115211805036553noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21184746.post-82058898342076037612009-04-11T19:52:00.000-04:002009-04-11T19:52:00.000-04:00Mark- So, as the exhaust from these planes- inten...Mark- So, as the exhaust from these planes- intensified 2.7 times as it is emitted in the higher atmosphere- doesn't matter if dropped into Lake Ontario to become water pollution? <BR/><BR/>How absurd- pollution is pollution, whether air or water- and whether the planes are fuel efficient or not is a moot point as well- they are still flying, and still polluting the waterfront. Land or water, CO2 and NO2 are toxic.<BR/><BR/>Torontonians did vote against the bridge to Island Airport to show their concern about its use of parklands as an airfield, and the use of our tax money to fund a privately owned company.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09668556618718610092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21184746.post-67235564049270207992008-01-30T23:53:00.000-05:002008-01-30T23:53:00.000-05:00Sarah - Since your blogger profile doesn't lead an...Sarah - Since your blogger profile doesn't lead anywhere, I did a quick google search and found your name attached to three other posts attacking Porter. What have you to say for other airlines? When was the last time you flew anywhere?<BR/><BR/>Taking your arguments in turn:<BR/><BR/>"You forgot to mention that Porter Airlines is flying out of the centre of a densely populated city"<BR/><BR/>Actually it's flying from the edge of a large city, given that roughly 50% of <A HREF="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=YTZ&sll=51.512375,0.047035&sspn=0.087603,0.23037&ie=UTF8&ll=43.651479,-79.396133&spn=0.203698,0.460739&z=11&iwloc=addr&om=1" REL="nofollow">the circular area surrounding Toronto Island Airport is Lake Ontario</A>.<BR/><BR/>"which voted against its expansion for reasons of air and noise pollution"<BR/><BR/>John Tory, Barbara Hall and John Nunziata supported the airport and won more than 50% of the vote. (363,000 vs Hizzoner's 300,000) David Miller won because the City of Toronto uses first past the post. No direct referendum on the use of the island airport has ever been held.<BR/><BR/>"In this age of global warming, and in a city which already has very bad air pollution" <BR/><BR/>Porter's turboprops are highly fuel efficient compared to the turbofans employed by Air Canada and Westjet. Obviously high speed rail would be more environmentally friendly, especially if powered by solar, wind, hydro or nuclear generated electricity, <B>but that is not an alternative available to Torontonians</B>, or at least not yet.<BR/><BR/>"this airline has been allowed to operate despite the wishes of the majority of the Torontonians. " <BR/><BR/>I refer your assertion to my answer above.<BR/><BR/>"Torontonians will pay the environmental consequences of this airline for years to come to allow a relatively few people to take short haul flights- flights which Europe has banned as environmentally destructive"<BR/><BR/>Absolute rubbish. "Europe" (presumably "the European Union" although one does not equal the other) has done no such thing and I defy you to produce evidence - especially since the exact same aircraft as Porter's is being used by Flybe and Luxair to operate from the centre of a much larger city than Toronto, and <A HREF="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=LCY&sll=43.687001,-79.326903&sspn=0.006362,0.014398&ie=UTF8&ll=51.512375,0.047035&spn=0.087603,0.23037&z=12&iwloc=addr&om=1" REL="nofollow">from a catchment with a lot less water around it!</A>Mark Dowlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399115211805036553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21184746.post-75273257205713247532008-01-30T17:31:00.000-05:002008-01-30T17:31:00.000-05:00You forgot to mention that Porter Airlines is flyi...You forgot to mention that Porter Airlines is flying out of the centre of a densely populated city, which voted against its expansion for reasons of air and noise pollution, as well as health and safety concerns. In this age of global warming, and in a city which already has very bad air pollution, this airline has been allowed to operate despite the wishes of the majority of the Torontonians. <BR/><BR/>Torontonians will pay the environmental consequences of this airline for years to come to allow a relatively few people to take short haul flights- flights which Europe has banned as environmentally destructive, as the per capita emissions are greater than any other mode of transport.West End Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09123850345055322462noreply@blogger.com